Shaykh: (...inaudible...) You have given us
weapons, you have given us hope and we thank Allah for you. We don’t
want to take much of your time, but this is the arrangement of the
brothers. People now are supporting us more, even those ones who did not
support us in the past, support us more now. I did not want to take that
much of your time. We praise Allah, we praise Allah. We came from Kabul.
We were very pleased to visit. May Allah bless you both at home and the
camp. We asked the driver to take us, it was a night with a full moon,
thanks be to Allah. Believe me it is not in the country side. The
elderly...everybody praises what you did, the great action you did,
which was first and foremost by the grace of Allah. This is the guidance
of Allah and the blessed fruit of jihad.
Laden: Thanks to Allah. What is the stand of the Mosques there (in Saudi
Shaykh: Honestly, they are very positive. Shaykh Al-Bahrani
gave a good sermon in his class after the sunset prayers. It was
videotaped and I was supposed to carry it with me, but unfortunately, I
had to leave immediately.
Bin Laden: The day of the events?
Shaykh: At the exact time of the attack on America, precisely at the
time. He (Bahrani) gave a very impressive sermon. Thanks be to Allah for
his blessings. He (Bahrani) was the first one to write at war time. I
visited him twice in Al-Qasim.
Bin Laden: Thanks be to Allah.
“…I was quickly humbled
by this guide, which showed
much I had mis-
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Shaykh: This is what I asked from Allah. He (Bahrani) told the youth:
"You are asking for martyrdom and wonder where you should go (for
martyrdom)?" Allah was inciting them to go. I asked Allah to grant me to
witness the truth in front of the unjust ruler. We ask Allah to protect
him and give him the martyrdom, after he issued the first fatwa. He was
detained for interrogation, as you know. When he was called in and asked
to sign, he told them, "don’t waste my time, I have another fatwa. If
you want me, I can sign both at the same time."
Bin Laden: Thanks be to Allah.
Shaykh: His position is really very encouraging. When I paid him the
first visit about a year and half ago, he asked me, "How is Shaykh Bin-Ladin?"
He sends you his special regards. As far as Shaykh Sulayman :‘Ulwan is
concerned, he gave a beautiful fatwa, may Allah bless him. Miraculously,
I heard it on the Quran radio station. It was strange because he (‘Ulwan)
sacrificed his position, which is equivalent to a director. It was
transcribed word-by-word. The brothers listened to it in detail. I
briefly heard it before the noon prayers. He (‘Ulwan) said this was
jihad and those people were not innocent people (World Trade Center and
Pentagon victims). He swore to Allah. This was transmitted to Shaykh Sulayman :Al ((‘Umar)) Allah bless him.
Bin Laden: What about Shaykh Al-((Rayan))?
Shaykh: Honestly, I did not meet with him. My movements were truly
Bin Laden: Allah bless you. You are welcome.
Shaykh: (Describing the trip to the meeting) They smuggled us and then I
thought that we would be in different caves inside the mountains so I
was surprised at the guest house and that it is very clean and
comfortable. Thanks be to Allah, we also learned that this location is
safe, by Allah’s blessings. The place is clean and we are very
Bin Laden: (...Inaudible...) when people see a strong horse and a weak horse,
by nature, they will like the strong horse. This is only one goal; those
who want people to worship the lord of the people, without following
that doctrine, will be following the doctrine of Muhammad, peace be upon
(Bin Laden: quotes several short and incomplete Hadith verses, as follows):
"I was ordered to fight the people until they say there is no god but
Allah, and his prophet Muhammad."
"Some people may ask: why do you want to fight us?"
"There is an association between those who say: I believe in one god and
Muhammad is his prophet, and those who don’t (...inaudible...)
"Those who do not follow the true fiqh. The fiqh of Muhammad, the real
fiqh. They are just accepting what is being said at face value."
Bin Laden: Those youth who conducted the operations did not accept any fiqh in
the popular terms, but they accepted the fiqh that the prophet Muhammad
brought. Those young men (...inaudible...) said in deeds, in New York
and Washington, speeches that overshadowed all other speeches made
everywhere else in the world. The speeches are understood by both Arabs
and non-Arabs–even by Chinese. It is above all the media said. Some of
them said that in Holland, at one of the centers, the number of people
who accepted Islam during the days that followed the operations were
more than the people who accepted Islam in the last eleven years. I
heard someone on Islamic radio who owns a school in America say: "We
don’t have time to keep up with the demands of those who are asking
about Islamic books to learn about Islam." This event made people think
(about true Islam) which benefited Islam greatly.
Shaykh: Hundreds of people used to doubt you and few only would follow
you until this huge event happened. Now hundreds of people are coming
out to join you. I remember a vision by Shaykh Salih Al-((Shuaybi)). He
said: "There will be a great hit and people will go out by hundreds to
Afghanistan." I asked him (Salih): "To Afghanistan?" He replied, "Yes."
According to him, the only ones who stay behind will be the mentally
impotent and the liars (hypocrites). I remembered his saying that
hundreds of people will go out to Afghanistan. He had this vision a year
ago. This event discriminated between the different types of followers.
Bin Laden: (...Inaudible...) we calculated in advance the number of casualties
from the enemy, who would be killed based on the position of the tower.
We calculated that the floors that would be hit would be three or four
floors. I was the most optimistic of them all. (...Inaudible...) due to
my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas
in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse
the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only. This is
all that we had hoped for.
Shaykh: Allah be praised.
Bin Laden: We were at (...inaudible...) when the event took place. We had
notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place
that day. We had finished our work that day and had the radio on. It was
5:30 p.m. our time. I was sitting with Dr. Ahmad Abu-al-((Khair)).
Immediately, we heard the news that a plane had hit the World Trade
Center. We turned the radio station to the news from Washington. The
news continued and no mention of the attack until the end. At the end of
the newscast, they reported that a plane just hit the World Trade
Shaykh: Allah be praised.
Bin Laden: After a little while, they announced that another plane had hit the
World Trade Center. The brothers who heard the news were overjoyed by
Shaykh: I listened to the news and I was sitting. We didn't...we were
not thinking about anything, and all of a sudden, Allah willing, we were
talking about how come we didn't have anything, and all of a sudden the
news came and everyone was overjoyed and everyone until the next day, in
the morning, was talking about what was happening and we stayed until
four o'clock, listening to the news every time a little bit different,
everyone was very joyous and saying "Allah is great," "Allah is great,"
"We are thankful to Allah," "Praise Allah." And I was happy for the
happiness of my brothers. That day the congratulations were coming on
the phone non-stop. The mother was receiving phone calls continuously.
Thank Allah. Allah is great, praise be to Allah.
(Quoting the verse from the Quran)
Shaykh: "Fight them, Allah will torture them, with your hands, he will
torture them. He will deceive them and he will give you victory. Allah
will forgive the believers, he is knowledgeable about everything."
Shaykh: No doubt it is a clear victory. Allah has bestowed on us...honor
on us...and he will give us blessing and more victory during this holy
month of Ramadan. And this is what everyone is hoping for. Thank Allah
America came out of its caves. We hit her the first hit and the next one
will hit her with the hands of the believers, the good believers, the
strong believers. By Allah it is a great work. Allah prepares for you a
great reward for this work. I'm sorry to speak in your presence, but it
is just thoughts, just thoughts. By Allah, who there is no god but him.
I live in happiness, happiness...I have not experienced, or felt, in a
long time. I remember, the words of Al-Rabbani, he said they made a
coalition against us in the winter with the infidels like the Turks, and
others, and some other Arabs. And they surrounded us like the days...in
the days of the prophet Muhammad. Exactly like what's happening right
now. But he comforted his followers and said, "This is going to turn and
hit them back." And it is a mercy for us. And a blessing to us. And it
will bring people back. Look how wise he was. And Allah will give him
blessing. And the day will come when the symbols of Islam will rise up
and it will be similar to the early days of Al-Mujahedeen and Al-Ansar
(similar to the early years of Islam). And victory to those who follow
Allah. Finally said, if it is the same, like the old days, such as Abu
Bakr and Othman and Ali and others. In these days, in our times, that it
will be the greatest jihad in the history of Islam and the resistance of
the wicked people.
Shaykh: By Allah my Shaykh. We congratulate you for the great work.
Tape ends here
Second segment of Bin Laden’s visit, shows up at the front of the tape
Bin Laden: Abdallah Azzam, Allah bless his soul, told me not to record
anything (...inaudible...) so I thought that was a good omen, and Allah
will bless us (...inaudible...). Abu-Al-Hasan Al-((Masri)), who appeared
on Al-Jazeera TV a couple of days ago and addressed the Americans
saying: "If you are true men, come down here and face us."
(...inaudible...) He told me a year ago: "I saw in a dream, we were
playing a soccer game against the Americans. When our team showed up in
the field, they were all pilots!" He said: "So I wondered if that was a
soccer game or a pilot game? Our players were pilots." He (Abu-Al-Hasan)
didn’t know anything about the operation until he heard it on the radio.
He said the game went on and we defeated them. That was a good omen for
Shaykh: May Allah be blessed.
Unidentified Man Off Camera: Abd Al Rahman Al-(Ghamri) said he saw a
vision, before the operation, a plane crashed into a tall building. He
knew nothing about it.
Shaykh: May Allah be blessed!
Sulayman :((Abu Guaith)): I was sitting with the Shaykh in a room, then I
left to go to another room where there was a TV set. The TV broadcasted
the big event. The scene was showing an Egyptian family sitting in their
living room, they exploded with joy. Do you know when there is a soccer
game and your team wins, it was the same expression of joy. There was a
subtitle that read: "In revenge for the children of Al Aqsa’, Usama Bin
Ladin executes an operation against America." So I went back to the
Shaykh (meaning Bin Laden:) who was sitting in a room with 50 to 60 people. I
tried to tell him about what I saw, but he made gesture with his hands,
meaning: "I know, I know..."
Bin Laden: He did not know about the operation. Not everybody knew
(...inaudible...). Muhammad ((Atta)) from the Egyptian family (meaning
the Al Qa’ida Egyptian group), was in charge of the group.
Shaykh: A plane crashing into a tall building was out of anyone's
imagination. This was a great job. He was one of the pious men in the
organization. He became a martyr. Allah bless his soul.
Shaykh (Referring to dreams and visions): The plane that he saw crashing
into the building was seen before by more than one person. One of the
good religious people has left everything and come here. He told me, "I
saw a vision, I was in a huge plane, long and wide. I was carrying it on
my shoulders and I walked from the road to the desert for half a
kilometer. I was dragging the plane." I listened to him and I prayed to
Allah to help him. Another person told me that last year he saw, but I
didn't understand and I told him I don't understand. He said, "I saw
people who left for jihad...and they found themselves in New York...in
Washington and New York." I said, "What is this?" He told me the plane
hit the building. That was last year. We haven't thought much about it.
But, when the incidents happened he came to me and said, "Did you
see...this is strange." I have another man...my god...he said and swore
by Allah that his wife had seen the incident a week earlier. She saw the
plane crashing into a building...that was unbelievable, my god.
Bin Laden: The brothers, who conducted the operation, all they knew was that
they have a martyrdom operation and we asked each of them to go to
America but they didn’t know anything about the operation, not even one
letter. But they were trained and we did not reveal the operation to
them until they are there and just before they boarded the planes.
Bin Laden: (...inaudible...) then he said: Those who were trained to fly
didn’t know the others. One group of people did not know the other
(Someone in the crowd asks Bin Laden: to tell the Shaykh about the dream of
Bin Laden: We were at a camp of one of the brother’s guards in Qandahar. This
brother belonged to the majority of the group. He came close and told me
that he saw, in a dream, a tall building in America, and in the same
dream he saw Mukhtar teaching them how to play karate. At that point, I
was worried that maybe the secret would be revealed if everyone starts
seeing it in their dream. So I closed the subject. I told him if he sees
another dream, not to tell anybody, because people will be upset with
(Another person’s voice can be heard recounting his dream about two
planes hitting a big building).
Bin Laden: They were overjoyed when the first plane hit the building, so I
said to them: be patient.
Bin Laden: The difference between the first and the second plane hitting the
towers was twenty minutes. And the difference between the first plane
and the plane that hit the Pentagon was one hour.
Shaykh: They (the Americans) were terrified thinking there was a coup.
[Note: Ayman Al-Zawahri says first he commended Bin Laden's awareness of what
the media is saying. Then he says it was the first time for them
(Americans) to feel danger coming at them.]
Bin Laden: (reciting a poem):
I witness that against the sharp blade
They always faced difficulties and stood together...
When the darkness comes upon us and we are bit by a Sharp tooth, I
"Our homes are flooded with blood and the tyrant
Is freely wandering in our homes"...
And from the battlefield vanished
The brightness of swords and the horses...
And over weeping sounds now
We hear the beats of drums and rhythm...
They are storming his forts
And shouting: "We will not stop our raids
Until you free our lands"...