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Scams -- Dishonesty -- Abuse -- Salt Lake Baptist College.
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Here is how it began... I first met the "Doc" at a winter solstice party. The conversation turned to the historicity of Jews in Egypt. I said that the Bible story has no basis in history -- that there were never any Jews in captivity in Egypt. The reverend Doctor disagreed and said he would prove me wrong. As he did not know his facts offhand but he would look up his beliefs and send me the evidence.
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College Introducing... Christ's Servant in Utah and Administrative Vice President Author, educator and VP at Salt Lake Baptist College. "I have Bachelor degree from Texas Baptist Bible College and a Master's and two Doctorates from Salt Lake Baptist College. I am currently the Administrative Vice President as well as a professor in the college."
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The Reverend's first letter to me... Here is some of the info I promised to send to you. There is a massive amount more available on the internet from secular as well as religious sources. But, here are just a few that I have had the time to dig out for you. [Ed: If you want to read about this "massive amount", click here, but be advised it's all JUNK.] |
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My email to him: Thank you, but don't make this so too difficult and obtuse. You sent me links to follow, yet they yield nothing pertaining to our quest -- evidence of JEWS in Egypt. If you could gather all the good stuff, the real stuff, not just Wholly Babble (Holt Bible:) thumper's articles about these things, but the real things, that could be appreciated and it will be more honest -- and would not waste my time. And PLEASE realize that sending Bible quotes doesn't count as evidence! I'm going to ignore those because we want evidence from outside of religion -- from history, from archeology, yes? I once made a claim claim [to a Mormon] that there is no evidence of iron or steel in Pre-Columbian America [as the Book of Mormon claims], and a friend offered to give me evidence of it. He showed me a book about pre-Columbian copper fish hooks. [That was dishonest. The reverend is doing the same here, it seems.] I hope your evidence won't weasel out like that, I'd hate to think that you'd try dishonesty, what with being a man of the cloth and all. I haven't read all of your material yet, and I'll wait for the winnowed down material. I don't need a lot to believe your point, I need only one good piece of evidence for me to change my mind. So please don't do to me more like your links, it's nothing. Give me the meat only, OK? Thanks in advance. Ps: I have a
link that's much more in the ballpark of this subject:
moses-news.htm. |
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Happy new year, doc !! [2007]
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But to spend several hours to do exactly what I said I WOULD do cannot be called dishonest by anyone that understands the meaning of the word. --- I'll try this then: I will pray that you will send this evidence tomorrow. If praying works, you will find it in time to shar it with me. If praying doesn't work, then we'll know just that -- that praying doesn't work.
 --- Yes, thanks. But please remember just cobbling together a bunch of off-topic web pages with links on them that you didn't read many of them does not count. I need the MEAT. Where are the cemeteries, the artifacts the Jewish oil lamps and bones, and the records of the Egyptians. I have seen almost literally tons of Egyptian writing, letters form Egyptian writers, covering a multitude of subjects from records of warfare, letters home, letters to the employers of PAID pyramid builders, to just plain bragging of rulers. It would be dishonest to say for sure that Jews were there, without having any evidence for that. You might as well believe that Martian slaves helped make the pyramids, as the evidence for that is equal to the evidence of the existence of Jews in Egypt. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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At 11:05 AM 1/3/2007, you wrote: What makes you think God would answer the prayers of an unbeliever? [sic] --- well I now have some evidence that god answers prayers, your reply arrived in time, but I also prayed that your reply would contain the answer. It does not. Instead you refer me to "at least one of the links". Which one, for christ's sake ?
At least one of the links I sent you, that I did have the time to check out, mentioned Canaanites, which would have included the Hebrews, in Egypt.
--- If I pray for His
blessing and I receive none, then praying does not
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At 02:26 AM 1/4/2007, you wrote
--- "Biblical Archaeology" is good on the Bible things but it's crap on Archaeology. For example, in the mid seventies, I read an explanation in that rag abut the Shroud of Turin, where it hypothesized that during resurrections, a new sub-atomic particle may be created -- and I'm not making this up -- the resurrectron -- and that that's what probably "burned in" a 3-D image of the Resurrecrtee's burial shroud. Later I found a book in which it was admitted --in the first paragraph of the book -- that the shroud of Turin had bee dated to only the mid-14th century. And the marks on it are only paint, for Christ's sake! So, be skeptical. Tread lightly when you read "Biblical Archaeology" as these people have an axe to grind. Like you.
Here is one you might want to look at first:
http://www.truthbeknown.com/exodus.htm
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because that is not my intent. I promised to try to source them for you over the internet but have not been able to do so, so far. Some of those I have found for you already are quite sound. Especially the ones on the historicity of Jesus. They were from Roman, not religious, sources. (Pliny the younger, etc.)
--- Please don't come jammering now, my friend. At the Winter Solstice Party you seemed quite glib and dismissive, (sometimes I'm mistaken) like oh, it's noting to give you this information. Then you tried to trick me into falsely thinking that all of your previous hyperlinks you emailed to me pertain to our subject here! I wasted a lot of time following them. Next you said that, oh well, at least one of those was good hyperlink. Now it seems that perhaps you have read that link yourself by now, and not before -- and it turned out, unapologetically, like crap! That's what I think; correct me of I'm wrong. but I will invest a bit more. Duties here are currently extremely pressing (80-100 hour work weeks for the last couple of weeks- today has already been 15 hours) and the next two days I will be entirely involved in redesigning and rebuilding the entire sound system and sound station in the church building, so I can do nothing more concerning this current question until next week. I will try to source more information for you then. Please be patient. I will do the best I can as I
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At 02:57 AM 1/4/2007, you wrote:
I have Bachelor degree from Texas Baptist Bible College and a Master's and two Doctorates from Salt Lake Baptist College. --- Ahem... Have you any learning form secular sources? Do you know punctuated equilibrium from pointilism? I am
currently the Administrative Vice President as
well as a professor in the college.
--- So god sometimes answers the prayer of believers and god sometimes answer the prayers of nonbelievers. --- God sometime does not answer the prayer of believers and sometimes does not answer the prayers of nonbelievers. There's no distinction here. This seems stupid, reverend. God treats both groups the same, for christ's sake!
Yet you tell me that if I pray for a
SPEEDY resolution to your giving me [an un-believer] the Jew-answers, He
will ignore me. You are either sanctimonious, joking or
you know a lot, but not much about the historicity of
Jew in Egypt -- at least not now
[because as you tell me, you need to look up the
foundation of your beliefs]. So, Dr., why don't you
just pray for this answer and be dome with it? Praying
only should take a second, especially since Mr.
Omniscient up there already knows what's on your mind
before you open your mid or your heart, whatever you do;
he's just waiting for you to grovel and worship, to
prove to someone that he is indeed the Ruler of the
Universe.
I'm interested in the Historicity of the Jews in Egypt. Even a blind man can see that praying is as useless as tits on a boar. If praying works, I hold you , Dr. E.T. VanBuskirk PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for all the bad shit going down now and in the past and in the future. And I chose my words carefully here, Reverend. --- OK, lets try it, then. Please pray for my salvation. I will do nothing and thus fight God. Let's see if he's more powerful than I. Please click that you have received this message, indicating that my salvation is imminent. The I'll tell you if I have a salved feeling on my end, because the promised YES answer has been obtained. If not, then we'll have shown that even praying for salvation does not work. On the other hand, the Omnipotent may not be able to change my salvation status because I don't need it. I'm an atheist. I have never sinned and can never sin. That's one of the cool things about not believing in god/s. Damn, I'm off the subject again! Other than in the prayer for Salvation, which He has promised to always answer with a "Yes," He answers prayer in three ways- yes, no, or not yet [- thus later for sure -- ed. But what of one's prayer was for now?].--- No, that's OK. Thanks anyway. I'll look at http://www.asknoah.org/ later -- I just took a peek now and I don't have a good feeling about it. that has been quite helpful to me on a major project I am currently working on- a video and series of ten lectures on the Ten Commandments. I begin delivering them this coming Sunday--- While you're there, you might bring it into context with the the parts of Exodus that condones slavery, manservants, how to treat them and that it's ok to have them. I've always wanted one. evening and will also be delivering them on the road this summer with the tour of Tent Meetings from Texas to Washington state. I'm sure the man on the Ask Noah site has better access to info on Moses [sic] than I do at this time,--- weasel! Postponement will not look good on your record, my friend :) after all Moses was their go-between when they received The Law,--- Jews are much more entrenched in this belief in Moses than everyone else - they have a bigger axe to grind. Moses is much more important to them than he is to christians. To them he's like "our" jesus is to Crustians. After all that's all they have, more or less -- the equivalent of "our" Old Testament. Good luck on your lecture on the Ten Suggestions, though. and might be quite helpful to you in this matter. Should you like to contact him, let me know and I will have my wife e-mail you the link.--- No thanks.
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--- In this link, I found lots of material about the historicity of Attila the Hun, quickly and easily. Just one good (easy) source is Wikipedia. Attila the Hun existed! Jews in Egypt did not. I'm not going to slug thru that stuff on the net of the page, especially with the disclaimer in the first sentence that there is no evidence of habitation of Israelites in Egypt. If it exists, please cut and paste the material on that page into a reply Thanks in advance. [Eventually I did read that web page] --- You know, Archeological evidence would really be good. Some photos of the sites, pottery, and documents. Where's the beef ?? The next link concerned Moses and was quite informative. However, even I am not satisfied with the connections and conclusions made and the proofs offered. Seemed a bit nebulous to me. They draw possible conclusions but not definitive ones. I would have to do some quite extensive research and try to contact some experts in Egyptology for confirmation and more evidence before I would accept that one and the conclusions they drew. As I said, possible conclusions but not definitive ones. |
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--- Now you say *IF*...
before you did not say that, bub. Now you said "God will
answer a prayer for salvation from an unbeliever IF
that person is making sincere request from the heart." --- I now see why you were so reluctant to point out to me why the ONE link out of the crap you first send me came so late. In the link's very first paragraph it says that there isn't any evidence of the Jews. You knew that an were reluctant to point that out and give it as your best evidence do far, because you knew it would be dishonest. Furthermore, you never pointed out the MEAT on that "best" link because you knew it wasn't there, yes He won't answer sarcasm with salvation because the sarcastic one wasn't really asking for it in the first place- but rather only blowing the hot air of a buffoon. Well, we'll leave that matter in God's hands. Galatians 6:7 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."--- so, you will continue pray, knowing for sure that it won't work. How goofy of you! Besides, telling god just once ought to suffice, don't you think he heard you the first time, or what? Meanwhile, I will just wait here to be saved -- I shall do nothing to prevent or speed up my salvation. Let's see who is more powerful in this regard, God or me, ha ha. He has given you free will and you have chosen to exercise it.--- I, for one have no free will, believing free will is stupid. If I had free will I'd choose to be different from most, as it is I'm the same as everyone else. My prayers for your salvation will be answered by God; but it will be done by Him continuing to work on your heart through people and circumstances and the Holy Spirit- but,--- Do your worst! :) cause your god to save me, I dare you. I will do nothing to prevent or encourage it, I will just wait her and not even give it any thought. He will not force you to get saved.--- OK, cool. That has to be your choice.--- I won't choose... perhaps, if god is to stupid to know that, you should tell him and ask him to override my "free will" to choose not to choose. The ball is in your court, reverend. Pray, pray longer, pray louder... do whatever needs to be done. It's your [TAX-EXEMPT] business, not mine. God has given us free will and that thing which He has given to you cannot be abrogated by my prayers.--- I see, in this case, then, at least praying does not work, eh? You are beginning to see my point, reverend :) By the way, I asked the whole church to pray for you during our Wednesday night prayer meeting [sic] .--- Yeah, 50 uneducated people who, like you think that Egyptian thing really happened, when evidence tells us it didn't. I'm impressed! Your single repeated praying isn't good enough, why?? Louder, harder. more, more often? Jesus your omniscient god must be deaf! I never understood why you people think that repeating, and nauseam, a prayer to the omniscient is going to change His own will and plans. Too bad you didn't want to read the rest of that first page I sent in that first list and then looked it up for you again. There was some fairly good stuff there. We'll see what you do with the next ones.--- I do want to read it. And I will, mow, but I'll be really pissed if this is another wild goose chase, your previous links have been so dishonest. Correct me if I'm wrong. After your correction, if I get one, I'll take the time to go thru, one by one, to show that each link is crap. It's up to you. Also, you took the Attila the Hun thing out of context.--- I don't remember. Your point then was...? Gotta try to get a bit of sleep now. By the way, prayer works.--- Really? The 50 people praying for my salvation seem to have had no effect, I feel definitely un-saved. So now we have shown that praying does not work. NOTHING HAS HAPPENED! In fact, I don't even think that I need salvation. I'm OK. I've never sinned. If salvation means, among other things that next, I'll believe the Jews left not a single pottery shard, midden, building foundation in the desert, then I don't particularly want to be saved because salvation would mean stupidity. But I'll leave it up to you and your 50. Read them my email, but leave my name out, OK? (I think the Omniscient will be able to deduce for whom they are praying -- even though He apparently needs to be told everything 50-fold, ad nauseam) I'm willing to entertain and examine any evidence of their habitation in the desert, it's just that you are weaseling in giving it to me by dishonestly trying to obfuscate the thing with sending a ton if irrelevant Internet links to confuse me. In fact, you seem embarrassed now for having done that, by sending me that last link, the one which said that there is no evidence if the Jews' captivity in Egypt, as evidence that there were Jews in Egypt. I'm not the only one that believes so. [apparently VOTING on the truth has some validity]--- so you're not the only one who believes in Buddhism, or that the earth is flat or that there are no gods. What a stupid argument, Doctor! --- that's not so, I've seen many of these studies debunked. Praying does not work, as we can see with your 50-strong prayer team. I'm not saved after the praying... so now we have very strong evidence that praying does not work. I hope you'll send me the evidence of the Historicity of Jewish habitation in Egypt soon. |
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Dear Doc,
If it should turn out that
there is no archeological evidence of Jewish habitation and
servitude in paranoiac Egypt, would you be intellectually
strong enough to accept it ? I think not, if you
follow the stereotype of True Believers -- that’s my
prediction of what will happen.
1. The belief that something is true, in spite of evidence
to the contrary.
Best regards,
Ps: as you can see, your 50-person
prayer team has
not yet had an effect. Perhaps you should ask them
(I don’t want to tell you how to do your job
:)
to pray LOUDER, HARDER, LONGER, MORE, MORE SINCERELY,
SYCOPHANTICALLY and GENUFLECTINGLY, whatever… let’s
see if your praying will work! |
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I'm just about finished with rebuilding
the sound station. I spent the better part of two days on it
already. I'll finish up tomorrow. Then I'll be able to allot some
more time to "the Jew thing."
I'm running a search right now on my
e-mail to see if I can find the article that I was originally
searching for that I told you about the night of our conversation.
I'll let you know if I find it. I lost several thousand e-mails when
we changed servers last year. I hope it is still there somewhere.
Doc
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At 10:43 AM 1/8/2007, you wrote: --- But I stray, sorry. --- I Have little respect for you -- and why should
I have respect ? You have tried to trick me, lie to me, weasel, you; you are smug and intolerant of
other peoples modes of expression, religion and weltanschauung. So, now you have
an excuse to NOT find that elusive Egyptian Jew information -- you can say to
yourself, oh, gee this fellow is not worthy and he's not of my religion.
Doc
--- A story about Moses just won't do, reverend. We really
ought to see some bones, graves, pottery, Synagogues -- REMNANTS!!! If your
sunken Egyptian Chariot wheel can establish that Egyptians inhabited Egypt --
then we need to see something of that kind to think that Jews inhabited Egypt.
My expectations are high, and from the tome of your jammering here it seems that
a story about Moses ought to prove anything. Come on, reverend, don't try to
INSULT out intelligence. I want meat. Where's the beef?
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Your information of the Jews was such poor quality, misleading and insulting,
what with all your weaseling and the crap-reading I had to do on account of the
information you sent me. I'll think about Jesus after we finish the Israelites'
Egyptian connection, if you don't mind. My suspicion is that now, knowing
you better, you will try to give similarly dishonest
references. But I'll reserve judgment. Perhaps some Roman contemporaries of
Jesus made a note of His events. I hope so, else Christianity would be a fraud.
(The info on Jesus was just a side-note in our
conversation, but I did send you what secular info I could find on the net.)
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I still have not been
able to find the original article on Moses in
Egypt that I referred to the night of our original
conversation. I am afraid it was lost when the
college switched servers last year. The man who
runs our website (email) didn't know that my
e-mail, at
that time, was not downloaded to my computer as it
is now. I now use Outlook Express and it
automatically downloads all mail to my computer
from my two main accounts (personal and college
accounts). When he switched us over, I lost
hundreds of archived e-mails that were stored on
the previous server. They are irretrievable. It
took me months to reestablish contact with some of
my students.
[Maybe the dog ate it -Ed.]
However, I did do some
more research and came up with the following
site. Interesting parallels between an
ancient Egyptian papyrus and the book of Exodus.
http://www.specialtyinterests.net/ipuwer.html
[This parallel becomes much less evident when not taken out of context, see here for a full translation of Papyrus Ipuwer, and here (Wikipedia) -Ed.]
There are many more
sites concerning this papyrus-some pro and
some con. You can access them by running a
search using "Ipuwer Papyrus" on the internet.
Google gave me dozens of hits. I looked at many
and, as I said, some are pro and some are con
concerning a connection with the Exodus. You
can decide what you think the connection might or
might not be.
---
Luckily for us, what's on your
church's computer
is not crucial to the problem of the Historicity of the
Jews! I'm waiting for the evidence from you.
If it's a fact, there will be many documented excavations,
studies,
GRAVES, BONES, PAPYRI, MONUMENTS, INSCRIPTIONS, FOUNDATIONS
OF DWELLINGS, SYNAGOGUES, STREETS, OIL LAMS, MINORAs,
MIDDENS, TOOLS, FISH HOOKS. Did you even come across one
archeology book on this subject? I'll wait here
by my modem :)
Only a fool
would have a false religion.
"No one has the slightest
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At 01:31 AM 1/9/2007, you wrote:
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At 12:38 AM 1/14/2007, you
wrote:
He has used nature on many occasions. He created it and has the right to use it if He so chooses.) So I guess it depends on who you choose to believe.---I don't believe you until you quit stalling and send me the EVIDENCE you said which you know of and promised to provide. Pleas LOOK UP YOUR BELIEFS and at least tell me the name of the museum / facility which houses the evidence we both seek. Why are you being so difficult? Many times "debunking" is in the "eye of the beholder." Many of the web sites were "pro" and many were "con." That's what I stated in my e-mail when I sent it to you. As I said then, I say again, you choose what to do with the info.--- I choose to believe that no Jews were in Egypt because I have seen no evidence of such a fantastic claim. You told me yo have it and are weaseling, stalling, or uneducated on the subject. Perhaps you're not dishonest about it, you just don't know the facts. It seems that something like that should have been covered in your divinity PhD school, no? Shame either way, yes? I simply was supplying it to you as I promised. Doc
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---I Ignored nothing. You are an ass for saying that. I looked at everything you sent me!! The problem is that it was ALL just junk. You gave me ONLY shit. No artifacts, nothing. No documented excavations, GRAVES, BONES, PAPYRI, MONUMENTS, INSCRIPTIONS, FOUNDATIONS, SYNAGOGUES, STREETS, OIL LAMS, MINORAs, MIDDENS, TOOLS, FISH HOOKS -- No E=V=I=D=E=N=C=E ! Also since you have ignored my request for us to communicate on a civil basis and have continued to use the Lord's name in vain and continued to purposely and personally insult me, then I have no choice but to break off correspondence with you. --- Oh, excuse me, I apologise! I've received insults from you and from religious people, telling me here is shit ... ahem "evidence", telling me I'm a sinner, telling me that I'm not living my life correctly, getting lectured, saying that your WHOOLY BABBLE stories are true, SANS EVIDENCE, and now you have the gall to complain about STYLE ?! I didn't even ask for proof! I only asked for descent EVIDENCE! You really take the cake, reverend. You are a WORM, in my opinion.  ---
Above was *MY* prediction : "You will use as
excuse the tone of my letter, not is substance, to claim moral superiority or
insult, and thus weasel that it's because of that, that you won't supply
the EVIDENCE" -- It looks like I'm a better prophet than any in
your camp. At least I predicted something that, afterwards, actually
happened. HA! You have proven yourself to be an uncivilized person with no
sense of common decency. Nevertheless I
had hoped that my prediction might not come true.
We leave it up to God to answer as He sees fit.--- Don't do that! Pray for my salvation. The you'll know right away if it works. It doesn't work, because nothing has happened to me. If you god-combo were real, I would despise them, all three of them -- well four of them -- if you count the devil as an Omniscient Omnipresent being. --- That's stupid, too. I am more powerful that you imaginary HE; HA HA. --- Let me know when you and you PRAYER SQUAD have given up, so I and my friend can have a big laugh. Then I'll publish the results on the 'net. You choose whether you will yield or not. --- Yes, I choose to yield. Do your worst, "reverend Double-Dr.-Phd" You Weasel, you. --- Your goofy prayers don't work. Praying is stupid. It does not work, see? Try honesty next time you attend an atheist party. Perhaps you might learn something. Your Baptist Ministry school didn't educate you -- or you would not think that you URLs are evidence. Pray to ask your trinity-combo and god-on-a-stick to make your smart, educated and honest. Quit lying to people. You are stupid, or you are dishonest. Both are bad qualities, I'm sorry but I don't see it any other way. He has given you that choice. Exercise it as you will. I don't know what you are truly seeking in your life, but I hope you find it. I am not mad at you, just disappointed that you have chosen this uncivilized track. --- It's uncivilized to lie, weasel and to be uneducated. Read a book, get an d education, "Doctor Double-Phd". Only a fool would have a false religion. god bless you. Your name, VanBuskirk translates as "Of the Penitence Church", yes? Repent, for christ's sake! Google your name and you will see THIS. If no more evidence is forthcoming from you, this will have to stand as is. Be nice. Goodbye, god Bless. |
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I'm
UNDERWHELMED, reverend. 
I promised to look up what info I could find on the
net. And what I sent you is what I have found so far. Some of it
secular and some not. Some of the articles that I have read in the past, such
as those in a magazine called "Biblical Archaeology",
On a side note
-- your remarks about prayer. God promises to answer the prayer of the
believer. With the non-believer He has never
promised to answer their prayers. But, even
though He has not obligated himself to do so, He
does sometimes answer their prayers,
Only a fool
would have a false religion.
Yes, I would like info on
--- OK, it's just SO0oo convenient, isn't
it
LINKS:
Religion beat became a test of faith
[GOOGLE]:
Rev. Jerry Vine
[Wikipedia]:
Rev. Ted
Haggard
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From: "Doc Van" <docvbk@msn.com> Subject: Info you requested- Moses, Jesus, etc. Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:29:00 -0700
Here is some of the info I promised to send to
you. There is a massive amount more available on the
internet from secular as well as religious
sources.
But, here are just a few that I have had the time [sic] to dig out for you.
The Reverend's email is in
BLACK;
mine are shown in
BLUE
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The
Exodus:
 http://www.geocities.com/worldview_3/exodus.html "Admittedly, there is not an abundance of specific archaeological evidence to confirm each particular event in the biblical account of God delivering the people of Israel out of Egypt through Moses, as described in the book of Exodus ..." - Moses: http://biblelight.net/moses.htm At the bottom of this page are various links from which the info was gathered for the article [at this web page].
Amazing Discoveries is committed to giving the last message of warning to this world with special emphasis on Bible Prophecy, the music [sic] world" Link 2: www.pilgrimpromo.com below, it's the same ? and naturally nothing about Jews in Egypt, either, or about Moses.
http://www.pilgrimpromo.com/WAR/discovered/html/chapter12.htm this one seems quite informative. "The kings of the 18th Dynasty are stated by historians as being named either Amenhotep and Thutmoses." There was a Thutmose(s) ? III, II who was the sixth Pharaoh of the Eighteenth Dynasty. Wikipedia informs us that Thutmose III ruled from 1479 BC to 1425 BC according to the Low Chronology of Ancient Egypt. -- nothing about Jews in Egypt. General info on Moses and the Israelites in Egypt: http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1827/ The CREATIONISTS here tell us noting about the Historicity of Moses, on this site which is supposed to substantiate that Jews were in Egypt. On this web page we see ?It is true that there is no evidence for Moses, the ten plagues that fell upon Egypt or the exodus ?at that time?.? However this web site goes on to say that Egyptologist have most of the dates wrong, therefore Moses and Jewish slaves existed after all (sic). BBC broadcast on Moses: https://listhost.uchicago.edu/pipermail/ane/2002-November/004626.html Here, a computer is said to validated the story of Moses [ed.]: "In Moses, the latest scientific evidence is combined with state-of-the-art computer graphics and dramatic reconstructions to reveal the sensational truths that lie at the heart of the Moses story." also: http://www.abc.net.au/compass/s271762.htm Moses mentioned 3 times, no info on Jews, Slavery or Moses.
Christ's Servant in Utah
Dr. T.E. VanBuskirk Administrative Vice President Salt Lake Baptist College docvbk@saltlakebaptistcollege.org http://saltlakebaptistcollege.org 801-964-0763 ALUMNI
Doc
The Reverend Dr. VanBuskirk
says "there are multiplied
[sic]
hundreds of more
sites on these subjects" -- the historicity of Jews in Egypt. Yet he only gave these few links, and
they are *ALL* junk! None addresses this question. In an email I told him
that. I thought the good reverend is dishonest
in using these links to fortify his claim that Jews existed in Egypt and I told
him so.
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 My email to Dr. T.E. VanBuskirk 20 Oct 2009 15:45
FFRF sues IRS, Geithner
and California over 'Minister of Gospel' tax benefits
Sincerely yours. Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:00:41 -0600 Thank you, |
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